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fire_master 03-02-2004 11:47 PM

my new age speeder jet like thing.
 
my speeder jet thing
any coments???...

fire_master 03-02-2004 11:52 PM

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fire_master 03-02-2004 11:54 PM

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and a whire...

Pony 04-02-2004 12:37 AM

Hello there Mr. Psycho ferret. (like that) it looks intresting. nice idea. would like to see more.

isp_of_doom 04-02-2004 06:46 AM

ooh, intriguing, wanan see this with a nice texture

Alan 04-02-2004 11:21 AM

Ok dont take this the wrong way but I think that as a model it's poor. The shape is terrible, it's lumpy and organic when it should look manmade, the render is of awful quality and you dont seem to have paid attention to form and function. But I understand that you're still learning (heck we all are!)

I think you should pick something that already exists and get some reference and learn to model it. Stick to the designs and dont skimp on the details. You will benefit more in the long run. At the end of the day you havent done any concept sketches for this model and you are modelling it as you go with new ideas etc. That's not a great way of doing it because if you cant get something to look like the way you see it then yo umay give your self (and others) the excuse "it's meant to look like that" and we have nothing to compare to so we cant comment.

I dont want you to get disheartened by what I've said but people here have a tendency to be too nice when criting other people's work. It's lazy and it doesnt help you learn so take my comments onboard and keep on learning.

good luck
:)
Alan

fire_master 04-02-2004 03:14 PM

thanks Alan.
critisisim is what i need.
:)
I think im going to tweak it whithout smoothing it i think that may help it a bit.
and I am verry disopointed in the way the cockpit is comeing out I cant seem to figure out how to make it look like a cockpit and not an egg.

Alan 04-02-2004 03:59 PM

smoothing it is not the problem. the problem is the basic shape of it doesnt lend itself well to smoothing. For a start why have you triangulated it? you dont need to do that unless you are going to use it in a game engine.

As far as the cockpit goes it looks like "an egg" because it is all part of the same mesh. How would that cockpit fit together with the body of a real aircraft/vehicle? think about joins and seams and hinges etc.

I would split the mesh into four main parts. The cockpit, the body and the two "legs". from there tweak each part and remodel if you have to. That will make it easier to see what's going on. But remember "form and function" think about how something in real life (e.g. the skids on a helicopter for example) work and how they are connected to a real helicopter. Use references where possible. Look at real machines and see how they work. that will make your work a lot more convincing.

:)
Alan

fire_master 04-02-2004 04:59 PM

Quote:

For a start why have you triangulated it?
i wasent aware that i did nor do i know what that means . sorry please excuse my ignoence. :confused:

Alan 04-02-2004 05:06 PM

dont worry about it, actually on closer inspection it isnt triangulated it's just messy ;) the body doesnt need that many polys and you really will want to keep them much neater than that it will make it easier in the end when it comes to texturing etc..

fire_master 04-02-2004 06:13 PM

messy gah! how dare you
jk
im going to work on it and post my progress here thanks for your help so far :D

Alan 04-02-2004 06:20 PM

anytime

Good Luck

Alan

fire_master 04-02-2004 06:28 PM

should i try to edit the model i have?
Or would i be best off starting the project from the begining???

Alan 04-02-2004 06:34 PM

for my money I would put this one down to experience, get some reference model/sketch some ideas and then start again. It's gonna be easier than wading through that mesh but it's up to you.

One point for example is on the "legs" where they are straight at the bottom you could get away with only a couple of extrudes rather than 20 ;) that would make your life easier. But that's just one of those things you will learn as you go along

Alan

scopa 04-02-2004 06:44 PM

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Here is something to help you simplify the mesh... remember, you only need really broad geometry at this point.


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