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surferbro66 03-02-2007 06:15 AM

Vista or not to Vista?
 
anybody load Vista yet on a machine running Maya?

DrRobotnik 03-02-2007 06:34 AM

I'm installing Vista once i've finished up a bit of work tomorrow. I've heard maya runs fine on Vista and friends using vista are saying its better than expected.

I'm quite looking forward to it TBH

EDIT: Hold your horses and read below:

daffas 03-02-2007 08:44 AM

i read that they dont have alot of the drivers out for it yet.

DrRobotnik 03-02-2007 08:56 AM

Most of the the major drivers are covered. Out of the 6 people i know running vista only one has reported a missing driver for a crap chinese webcam.

I've checked that all mine are there already, it didnt take long.

papalatistudios 03-02-2007 08:57 AM

I am not touching vista for at least a year.
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Check this out.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/...sta/page6.html

DrRobotnik 03-02-2007 08:59 AM

The link is broken mate

DrRobotnik 03-02-2007 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by papalatistudios
I am not touching vista for at least a year.

I'll be leaving XP as a dual (well triple if you include linux) boot for about that long just to be safe.

papalatistudios 03-02-2007 09:45 AM

Sorry about the link it works in both of the browsers Im using.

The point of the link was to take you to a reputable site that ran numerous benchmarks comparing xp and vista.

In Applications, from Max and Maya there was like an 89% reduction in performance when running the same thing in Vista.

Even gamespot.com ran benches and all the games run better in xp. Vista is simply too hungry for all the resources that microsoft through in with the code.

DrRobotnik 03-02-2007 09:57 AM

The stats i've seen are saying 20%, 89% loss in performance seems astronomical.

EDIT: Ah sorry misunderstood the last post. 89% on opengl apps. I thought they implemented it fully on official release. Looks like we'll be using maya in xp. I'll still be using vista for day to day work tho. The search functions, virtual folders etc are too handy to me to pass up on.

DrRobotnik 03-02-2007 10:15 AM

This makes interesting reading:

http://blogs.msdn.com/kamvedbrat/arc...22/537624.aspx

Looks like there could be a relatively painless fix.

" Windows Vista ICD's - this is a new path for 3rd party ICD's introduced for Windows Vista that will work in a way that is compatible with desktop composition. Essentially allowing direct access to the GPU for hardware accellaration, but then having the final surface that appears to be the front buffer to the application actually be a shared surface that gets composed by the DWM"

instead of:

"MSOGL - this is an implementation of OpenGL 1.4 that uses Direct3D under the covers to hardware accellerate the application."

EDIT: The nvidea geforce and quadro drivers includes an OpenGL driver for compatibility testing. Haven't checked ATI

ht80131 07-02-2007 12:09 PM

The link is broken mate

publicFunction 07-02-2007 12:24 PM

The link is fine.

Vista is a no go, I may even drop to Windows 200 Pro Soon.

marlonjohn 10-02-2007 10:22 AM

i dont trust vista, no way for me...

how many operating systems have came out in the past 5-10 years? i remember when i first installed 95 lol ;)

Fallenswordsman 18-02-2007 07:15 PM

Certainly not for now - I've evaluated the Business edition for work and I did find it heavy going, especially with the necessity to change bits that didn't need changing. The start menu is pretty useless now requiring more clicks than ever to get to what you want unless you push it back into Classic Mode...Control Panel items have once mroe inexplicably been rejiggered and the big one is - lack of native Open GL support. I don't know what this means for you Maya users, but Lightwave suffers from chronic slowdown as Vista translates the OpenGL calls to DirectX. I am seriously thinking that Windows XP will be my last Microsoft OS that I'll run on my computer.

MattTheMan 20-02-2007 10:29 PM

I installed the trial of Vista for a day or two, then I ended up dumping it. There's a bunch of nice things about it, such as mac-like interface (:)) and the gadgets (also mac like (:))), but they do eat your speed and they're not useful either.

Conclusion: XP-keep it.


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