Total Recall
 

Only 30 seconds, but looking good.....

Trailer out on Sunday!! http://www.beyondhollywood.com/watch...eboot-trailer/

Jay

trailer for a trailer.

Yeah LOL something like that

Been kinda following this project. I don't know about this. I my opinion Arnold Schwarzenegger owns this movie. Seeing Colin Farrell play Douglas Quaid just doesn't seem right. I guess we will haft to see.

friend of mine at D-Neg is building environments for it still, he said it looks like a good film. If he says its good usually he's pretty spot on.

but as you said lets wait and see

J

New trailer... looks pretty good
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/s...s/totalrecall/

Just a note that the above link is NOT a rick roll... given april fools and all.

Saw the new trailer, and I still don't know about this. If it plays out like Arnolds version, then everying up until the time Quaid goes to Recall is the only thing real, then everything after that is just the events going on in the secret agent implant. Doug Quaid is ultimately Lobotomized in the end.

Question, does the reboot still take place on mars? Cant really tell from the trailer, but it kinda looks like they took the Mars setting out.

Ok, found out a little bit more about this remake.

Mars has been taken totally out of this movie. This really sucks because the Phillip K. Dick novel " We can remember it for you wholesale" revolved around mars. So instead the studio executives decided to focus the conflict on a future earth between Euro-America and New Shanghi. And our hero in this one is a spy with fuzzy memories caught between the two countries unsure of who he is working for.

The budget for this remake is 200 million, slated for an august 3rd release date, and a lead actor who has never been in a big budget movie, or let alone been in a hit movie.

They should never release a big budget movie like this in august. The summer movie season starts winding down in that month with schools and colleges starting back up just few of weeks after this remake opens. It's going to be very difficult for this film to just break even. And I don't think the foreign sales are going to help that much either.

Yeah its Phillip K Dick Novel, just like Blade Runner was 'Do Androids Dream of electric Sheep?'

To be honest since when has any film genuinely been 100% to any book??

J

Err I think you need to look a little deeper into your research there .... Colin Farrell has been in quite afew big budget movies and some have been hits.

But yer .... hating the fact Mars was removed but don`t think its 100% bad thing as it looks alot less silly than the 90`s one (even though I love that film)

Indeed, Neuromancer anybody????

My mistake, I forgot about Minority report. Forgot he was in it lol.

Minority Report, with a production budget of 102 million, and an advertising budget of 40 million. It grossed 132 million domestically. He did 3 others ( Dare Devil, SWAT, and Horrible Bosses) that grossed just north of 100 million here in the states, but those where mid-budget films, and the advertising campaign makes up a 3rd of the budget. They did "ok" but not enough to be considered hits in my opinion.

I would not have picked Colin Farell for a movie like this. He doesn't have very much star power. I would have gotten a bigger star for a remake like this, but that would have probably killed the budget.

bah.....it will be crap...no Jay you are right...I dread the day they (if ever) make Magician...oh dear that will be a spoof plus

U also forgot alexander which made bucket loads on the 3 dvd releases on top of the 155 millon us boxoffice. But I think he is big enuff a star - had quite a few leadin roles new world, fright night, london boulavard, in bubge and a oscar node for tigerland. And less face it if the star was any bigger the film would be toned down to hell - like hancock (will smith big enuff star, big enuff budget - trolope of a film)

Alexanders production budget was 155 million ( to my surprise ). It made only 34 million here in the U.S. It took international sales to help it break even. Alexander was a critical box office flop. I remember when that came out. I was still a projectionist at a cineplex. We had 2 screens and both where half full at most for the opening weekend.

The New World made 12 million here in the U.S. Fright Night ( remake ) made 18 million. London Boulevard made a shocking 10 grand ( must have been a very limited release ), and Tiger Land made a disappointing 139 grand. It might have had a limited release also.

Colin Farrell is not a major box office star.

I dont think Colin Farrell is that bad -major or not. I think its a good choice. The problem with big name stars in films is that its just that actor in the film as themselves....Arnie is always just Arnie, Sean Connery is just Sean Connery...and Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise, they dont embody a character much anymore as they are so recognised. So Farrell is a good choice, he's not in your face.

J

Colin needs a movie that exploits his strengths as an actor. So far that hasn't happened. For Arnold Schwarzenegger, it was mainly his physique. For Sean Connery, it was his wit and charm. For Tom Cruise, it was his cockiness, and he usually picked movies that exploited that. Collin has not found his calling as an actor yet and this remake doesn't look to do that for him. Colin needs one movie that defines "HIM", unfortunately he keeps choosing roles that don't do that.

I dunno, I'm not a big fan of him, but he was really good in In Bruges... dark comedy, maybe that's him?

Comedy is not his forte. Thats probably why Bruges made only 7.8 million here in the states. I think Brad Pitt would have been a better choice for that movie IMO. He does Dark comedies really well, and so does Bruce Campbell, or maybe even Edward Norton. Death To Smoochy was an awesome movie.

I think he was great in In Bruges (box office take doesn't = quality) and also in Tigerland. He's been in some movies that haven't been very good but I've got no problem with him as an actor.

Big fan of the Verhoven original though, so not sure what I make of this one... time will tell.

Usually it does, and most of his movies could have done alot better if it weren't for the studios mentality about movies. They just don't want story, but Colin still needs to define himself alot better.

- Umm yer I`m with you there

THX - Have you seen twilight and transformers - and the highest box office ever Avatar - is not the best film around (although I am a fan - don`t get me wrong - but not Cam`s best work)

You really believe that box office take = quality?

So many examples of bad films raking it in, while good ones perform badly.

THX, I think most people are going to disagree with you. Really, you only have to go look at rotten tomatoes every now and again and see green splots frequently at the top of the box office chart. Wouldn't it be nice if the good movies got the most money?

I stand by my comment. "USUALLY", Box office take= quality. I never said it "ALWAYS"= quality.

Well i'm finding it really hard to think of any apart from lotr. all the really good films I have seen the last few years have been mid budget.

Being box office hits definitely doesn't equate to quality. In my opinion, the ones in the top 10 were not very good, Pirates was decent but don't get me started on Transformers, Twilight, Harry Potter, Thor etc.

No I think you are missing my point. When I see an Arnie, Tom Cruise or even a Connery movie, I dont see the character they are playing, all I see is them being 'them' not a character in particular, they are almost cliched and type cast. If you look at the Alec Guinness generation of actors, they 'became' those characters and you forgot about the actor same can be said of Harrison Ford, he is Indiana Jones and Han Solo, not just Harrison Ford. So for me Farrell is good enough, he will be invisible to me in the film as the actor, he will be the character. Its probably one of the reasons he was given the part, he's not directly in your face as a personality.

I'm in agreement with Gen, and call me old fashioned, but box office hits is, are and will always be such a fickle thing. Generally when you look at a box office hit its usually because its the latest 'in thing' (craze) or the actor leading in the film is just popular at that moment, its such bull. I could give you half a dozen movies that in MY opinion wipe the floor with such high end FX movies like Avatar (that has no original story btw, or is based off Dances with wolves) either way its not original. Although the Dark Knight is a great film, I dont think its above Batman Begins in a lot of ways, I think because of Heath Ledgers departure in our world, that everyone and their nan went to see it because of him, I would have seen it anyway regardless but my thinking is that its popularity increase was down to the Ledger factor.

Also when people bang on about avatar they dont actually realise that there isn't a damn thing in there that hasn't been seen before I can guarantee it, the factor for that film was it was sold purely on the improvement of the 3d Camera, to improve the viewing experience, which now in hindsight we all love to hate, but thanks to us viewers paying for the gimmick has now caused nearly all movies to get a 3d conversion - anyway.......thats another gripe story for another day LOL, so why is that film a hit???? I think its just the visual feast it gives, not a story. It bores me to tears, since owning it on Blu ray I still havent had the patience to watch it thru the first act LOL.


Edit: I was just looking at that box office list, I think the majority of the top ten should be made illegal LOL, in fact the top 50 need a good shuffle, how the hell some of those got green lit is a mystery to me. If you want a quality movie with good characters and 100% story, Im telling you you gotta see Real Steel....that was one movie that I did not expect from, yet that delivered the whole damn package, I was really surprised with that film.


J

Lol my father in law LOVES Avatar! I think it's the blue ray on an led LCD, he's all like "Ooh it's so pretty" and his eyes get all sparkely, it's hilarious. Every time they come over he wants to see it.

Hey Gen

thats funny, my step father loves it as a matter of fact, it must be the pretty pictures LOL

Jay

Those actors had really good screen presence and charisma. That has alot to do with how the audience judge films. Colin Farrell has the screen presence of a table cloth and the charisma of a parking meter- Violated. Add that to the bad boy image he repeats in every movie and that tells you why he's not doing very well. As to why Colin was picked for Total Recall 2012? Thats probably due to Kurt Wimmer. He was hired to write the screen play for Total Recall 2012, and also wrote the screen play for anther movie Colin was in, The Recruit. He also wrote the screenplays for Salt and Ultra Violet, of which I have heard where very convoluted, and why the studio decided he needed to write a story about erased memories, is beyond me. Collin has had only 2 hit movies in the span of 8 years ( SWAT and Horrible Bosses) and thats being generous.

Leading Actor/ latest craze does have alot to do with box office take. It goes both ways, it can make or break a movie. For example ( and this is a stretch ), you don't hire Mr.Bean to play the lead villain in a horror suspense film. Batman Begins and Dark knight where very well casted, and a big reason why those movies where so successful. Cristian Bale and Heath Leadger where perfect choices for those films. I knew both films where going to be great from the start.

It was the advancement in emotion capture, and the 3D technology that really made the movie a hit. The story wasn't really the main focus. I could easily criticize the story, but it was casted very well, and that was another big reason for it's success, and if you know James Cameron, then you know he pushes the envelope on pretty much every thing he does. Which is another part of the reason why his movies are so successful. And yes avatar ushered in the 3D age of film making.

It is pretty amazing what the general movie watching audience likes and doesn't like.

I haven't seen Real Steel yet, but was always interested in watching it. It had a production budget of 110 million, but only made 85.4 million here in states, but it did phenomenal over seas with over 200 million, bringing it's world wide total to almost 300 million. Had it been released closer to the holiday season last year, it would have done better. I guess the studios were still unsure about it.

Real Steel was good huh? I have to check that out because the trailers I remember made it seem super cheesy.

LOL and I quote.....LMAO

Obviously you're not a Farrell fan THX lol. I haven't seen much of his stuff ( only Alexander, Minority Report, Parnassus and Horrible Bosses) generally but give it a chance when it comes out.

Of course the whole craze goes both ways but I still think that The Dark Knights success was down to the Ledger effect of his passing. It was a great performance by him for sure, to the point of feckin scary....but I still believe it was that factor alone, because Bales performance as Batman is the best to date but not worth writing home about. I dont know if I thought they were both gonna be good especially 'Begins' , I'm a huge Batman fan and your faith does need to be restored after the trauma that Joel Schumacher left on the world, thank goodness for Chris Nolans vision.


Yes thats pretty much what I said about Avatar, no story just the focus on the 3d stuff, the whole 'see it in 3d' is just a sham and a total ball ache for us involved in the process, 3d conversion/technology isnt well liked by most.


Yeah the audiences level of expectation for films is pretty below par these days, the majority of the stuff in that top 10 is pretty bog standard run of the mill, bangs and pops and get the popcorn down you. Pirates 4, very below par after the other 3, good generally but below the standard set by the others, even Depps performance wasnt up to scratch. Potters...yawn!! nice effects but wake me when its finished.


Now, Real Steel, yeah seriously have a look at it at least, you probably think Im nuts. When I hired it last week, my wife and daughter asked me what it was about, I said well its errm Hugh Jackman some kid and Boxing Robots... - their faces were a picture!! Boxing Robots?? groan. So we put it on, myself expecting my wife to sleep after 10mins, but nooooo, it actually made her sit up and watch this relationship of Jackmans and the estranged son evolve and develop in the space of 90mins...we were bloody riveted!! Anyway give it a go......story and character pretty damn good, one of Jackmans best roles if you ask me.

Jay

I love the original Total Recall and I'll probably give this one a go too. I can take or leave Farrell so I'm good either way. He doesn't really have range as an actor (neither does Arnie for that matter) but how many mainstream celebs do? Between the comic book spin offs, the remakes, and the sequel/prequel bit thats so habitual these days, it's not easy for me to get excited about movies.

Good call Gen, thats exactly my point about Arnie et al.

J

Yeah, Arnolds acting is really sub par, and it's gotten worse in his later years; however, you have to agree, he's still the king of movie "one-liners". He's supposed to film a movie with Stallone called "The Tomb" some time this year.

I will have to check out Real Steal Pretty soon.

Ahh you must look out for the Arnie quotes on youtube...bloody funny. I think its called 150 Arnie quotes....something like that LOL...no oscar winner for sure

_J

Have guys forgotten about phone booth really really cool movie. Also just watched wrath of the titans and in my opinion the 3d is the best so far even compared to avatar...and that's all i can say that was good about that movie, I left the movie thinking ummhhhhh what was the story about.

LOL yeah alot of people have said that about Wrath of the Titans...what story??

LOL

Jay

I wonder if people would be more positive if they just started labelling things as tech demos or something.