THAT SITE IS AWESOME. I love those reference images. That will give me something to work on for the rest of the summer.

I found that wrinkle tutorial, but i was lookin more toward facial...

does anyone know any good FREE tutorials on how to do wrinkles. Or could quickly explain the basic concept behind it so i can full around and figure it out. Also, does anyone know any good sites...

I moved them both ways, no difference. How should i show u the pictures. Should i post them???

i followed everything u say, but i still can't get my objects to be in front of the image in the front and side view. Want me to post a picture of what i have? its really weird. the plane moves in...

Turn the trasnparency down. ok. Ill do it thankyou.

Thankyou very much. I'll follow the directions tonight and see how it works. Got to do homework first though. :( Thanks for taking the time to type all that in. That must have taken forever. ...

when i tried to move the plane using its settings it would move, but it made no difference whether i moved it back, it didn't changet it in the front view. I see what ur saying about the camera and...

I kinda clicked around, and i found that translate option, but no matter what i set it at the plane in the front view won't move. Anyway, i did it the texture/polygon plane way, and i shaded the...

THe plane itself won't move backwards, but some outline thing in the backgrond moves.

sry i made the pic to big. I made it smaller.

notice the cylinder in the back. It is only half showing. The other half is behind.