ok, did this last night before i went to bed...im starting to get the hang of it, most of the slip is gone (you probably wont catch it in this vid unless your really good : ) ) i also stayed away from swinging arms again because it just seems so boring....he starts out with a swing and brings them up for a clap..unfortunatly my hands are still not completely rigged so no finger movement..but its coming : ) pls tell me what you guys think... hallway walk oh and if you could let me know what the average connection speed is around here so i can compress my vids accordingly, that would be great : )