uses: maya PS 7 Wings PoV ray Blender (not often...) my tiny 6X8 wacom waiting for: MODO ( i'm afraid i 'll no longer model in maya after its release... ) Demo'ed: XSI, MAX want to learn : kaydara, Body paint and MR plug-ins (i can't live without ...i mostly model) : bonus tools, Quadchecker, a small script written by KB a few days ago in the script forum, and infinite Undo :p