Hi guys, Was just trying to give a generalized meaning. Not have a debate. There's enough of that going around. I agree on the modeling issue. It's the animation afterwards I was refering to & not all animation but as Iv'e said before, there are many ways in Maya to create the same thing. How would you create a pyramid. 3 sides & a bottom. Take it another step & make it equalateral. By the way I respect both of your guys imput on the site.