Originally posted by Zyk0tiK You think i could borrow that mesh when you're done with the modelling? ... Thx Thx Sorry, but this model is to be used in a project of mine and my modeling Reel. here is the finished mesh. no higher subD levels tweaks yet this is just the low cage poly dubD'd at level 3 display. i tried to maintain a cohesive mesh for the entire model... in terms of subtle detail. he is an older man. other minor touch ups is needed. he will be clothed in animation, i just modeled the body mesh [which will be removed in animation] for demo reel purposes. focused C&C welcomed. thanx.