ok thanks alan...and sorry for my late reply.... I got too exIted and started right away.... I was first trying to play with some glow settings but I found out that faking it with lightlinking was a better way still Im strugling with my scene... I have allready a few lights setup but I can't seem to get my GI_Joe look kinda lighted scene... If you guys have some tricks or comment ..please share because I want to figure out how to do it.... I played all day with the lights but it doesnt get any better... below you see a sceneimage and a testrender at 8000 fgrays...(I don't know yet how to use the min and max so...)