Originally posted by vladimirjp yea im a MUGger https://maya.meetup.com/11/ we meet every month in NY. if you can find people oin your local area, its a good idea to start a user group. good luck. Vladimir, I see from the meetup site that your group was founded in oct '03. From your experience, has the group been active enough to make it worthwhile? I ask, becuase to my knowledge there isn't one here on Oahu, so I think I'll be the one to kick it off. I'm already researching a venue to hold meetings in. I think a MUG would be a great place to network and learn form each other (similar to what we do online here on SM). Oahu doesn not seem to have a large Maya user population, or at least I haven't found where there hiding SM has over 40,000 registered user, surely there are a couple more from Hawaii :o [Edit] For those of you jeolous... get over it I'm only here because the Navy made go here. Plan to return to San Diego when I retire in '07.