No Its not nurbs. It was made using polygn modeling and then converted to subd's. Then I adjusted the subd's to get the shapes just how i wanted them. I don't get a lot of time on the computer. I may get an hour a night if I'm luck and maybe 2 to 4 hours on the weekend. I have a wife and a daughter and they keep me pretty busy. I have several books on Maya and i Read them as much as i can. Also i have some tutorial videos that i watch when i have free time. I'm sure you would agree that the software is pretty complex and its a lot of work to learn. I would like to see anything your working on. I will look to see if you have a thread here. If you don't would you post a picture on this thread if you could. Thanks.