lol yeah I don't mean anything by it. I just figured you can't possibly learn everything just by trying stuff out yourself. To be the best, you gotta learn from the best. And I'm no where the best so I can't learn from myself. I've been looking at the CGtalk website for about an hour now, and I must say, that BlackNull guy is one intimidating dude. Not to be rude to anyone here or anything. I love the stuff here, otherwise I wouldn't be here still.