i knew something was wrong thanks i will address that, i have about 30 pics which i have taken over the years of loving these things.i will post some up once i can work out how lol. i should be getting a bay window type 2 in the next 2 weeks yay. splittys are so expensive now.a okish one which needs a lot of work is bout 8,000 pounds lot of money so im settling for a bay. im going to work through the vw camper range so my next project will be my bay window.