No I know you didnt mean it, that was tongue in cheek... I havent increased the legs in size anywhere since the last post. Ive just added some minor shape from Falotts comments. The grey color you refer to is a blinn shader with a high specular setting so I can check for abnormalities in the model, ie: unwanted lumps or bumps But on a more serious point, why drop the subject on the proportion, its a WiP forum if you are going to crit my work do so, but give me some constructive feedback otherwise dont bother me with your comments _J