I just started to make cloths as well and i was all confused up until now that i saw cloth video tutorial right here on simplymaya. Now i know how to make better cloths and collison geometry. So i think i'll stick to that right now. I recommend you watch that Cloth tutorial( it's free) and you will have a better understanding of the cloths and it's settings. And it's not even hard. Goodluck now i am off to......:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: