Originally posted by MattTheMan i Interested now? no. matt, i m not sure if you are excited cuz its free [mental ray is also free :p], or its unbiased renderer, but i think i can get better result than that pic in under 30sec in MR. :p but its and interesting peice of software from what ive seen. i havent actually used it. but it sounds like the developer is making it purely as a hobby,. it would have more potential, if setting it up was easier. and thats the only way he could possibly even think about competing with maxwell, by making it a one-two punch to set up scenes for rendering.