Well I didnt think the texture would be of use as a pointer, so heres the uv instead. I cut the thumbs off so I had a bit more room to enlarge the uvs. Im not concerned about seams as I know they can be removed with Mayas 3d texture tools!! See GI DVD for details!! I can hear the screams of 'why have you laid them like this?' Basically I wanted to keep the uvs a similar size all round with everything. Later Jay