yer thanx sev, i'l try that. That is the tutorial i was doing. Dobby the house elf. Im no good at mouths and noses though.

And gster, cheers for ur advice too. i'l use that too. I experimented with blend shapes on low res to make him smile, but tweaking was a nightmare because of the geometry around the mouth is a shambles.

much appreciated

keep it coming peeps