cool and thanks, i agree with you both. It's semantics now, take care where you tread.. I am, but here in Oz, well that's just how people talk. We have many many nationalities and all mixed together, though in Sydney, (I'm in Adelaide at the moment), there you can go to a suburb and its like walking into another country, its great not like a ghetto Everyone talks freely and everyone respects another's opinion AND religion. We are big on poiticak correctness (believe it or not !)Theres the usual clowns in the circus (are you pointing that finger at me ) but that happens everywhere. Actually sometimes I think we talk too freely (embarrassing.)