hey thanks for the comment, I appreciate it a lot. well one thing I can suggest and play with a box. what I usuallly do is the the edge and beve it( 1 split bevel). that will turn that 1 line or edge two. then I take the edge loop tool or split poly tool and draw a line on the outta side of both lines/edges. one thing u gotta look for is 3 or 5 sided polys. try to make everything 4 sided and you will be ok. moday ill upload pics of my process so u can check it out