ok I ahve encounter a problem... I am connecting all the verts from both sides of the car and I am doing the front bumper... Now I combine the two polygons and then start merging all the verts taht connect the bumper.... but when i got to sub d it, it doesnt do anything... it stays as a polygon. However before I combine it and they are two seperate parts they go to subd fine... if anyone could help that would be greatly appreciated!! thanks