you know, the more i think about it, the 3d palace tutorials are bad to learn from. they teach you bad habits. ive got tutorials from simplymaya, gnomon, and digital tutors and everyone pretty much uses the same techniques except for 3d palace. they might have cool concepts like a massive apu, ultimax apocalypse, or the ultimate something or other (which has over 100,000 polygons in the foot alone) but damn are they careless with modeling. ive seen some 3dsmax tutorials as well. same thing.

just an opinion.