Originally posted by jsprogg Benny things like fur and paint effects when used extensively have to be tackled very delicately if you don't want Maya to crash. Even the best systems struggle with it unless you optimize the scene efficiently and more than likely render in layers to make the pc work less. Welcome to Maya ...hehe ... with my computer I guess I should really get use to 'optimizing the scene efficiently' hehe... BTW, I was going to start with some simple objects and go on to the more difficult ones... Thanks for the advise. Benny