Hi arran, thanks for giving me some terminology to search. I think thats half the battle being a newb, not knowing what the terminollogy is! Anyway, here is an example of what I am talking about. https://www.mattscanvas.co.uk/MayaExample.jpg The top example is my terrible penguin! The middle and bottom are the tut examples that bend and turn nicely. I want my penguins rig to act in a similar fashion to make it more natural, but as you ill see it aint working? I am also having problems attaching the fet and mouth etc. I can attach the bone structure of the feet, but it does not move the actual polygon foot.