the tires are all geometry, but I didn't model them. I Just textured them. As far as the Jeep, Started with the basic shapes using Nurbs. Converted to Polys afterwards to add details and bouleons. Umm... started to work on the explorer, changed my mind. don't feel like modeling another vehicle, to much time. Anyone know if there if a decent model of a late model explorer anywhere? Don't really care what year, I would definetly prefer a late 90's one though. I found a 93 explorer, but the quality of the model sucks. THanks, Brian