Originally posted by el_newty like I said... I like the water hey thanks. the water is the easiest to do as it just reflects the surroundings. so it will look even more realistic with textures added in the other part of the scene. actually i already replaced my self painted sky with a real 360 degree sky which lets the clouds mirror in the water. but i did not change enough worth a new snapshot. stay tuned, but dont be disappointed if the next thing i post are some wireframes and the final shot. if there is need, i can put the inbetween pictures after the competition is over. thanks