Thanks ben!!! mate trust me Im tired. I do Surveying all day and modelling some hard stuff real world wise...12 hour days mate...Im buggered.

Yeh I downloaded Sculptris a while back but never got the hang of it. I did the bull today and imported back to Maya...it looked like crap!! I just download Zbrush...30 day trial. S**t mate it looks hard to get the head around. So many unknown menus etc etc..........

I am going to look in on you now....bahahahaha

cheers for the compliment mate..I do really feel so out of my depth aigainst (sorry WITH) you guys..you are all so good.