Aaarg, Kurt... I was modelling then decided to come see how you were doing, I was looking at this for a good 5 minutes and then i went back to my model and its a PIECE. This is amazing, you do model extremely fast and extremely well.. you could get a job with the flick of a finger! But yea, one thing you should buy books on is texturing.. not saying i can do better, just you could of made that model jaw dropping. I think one thing about it though is I was waiting for a "green" orcish type skin.. then i saw this and it threw me by surprise. I like it though, grows on ya.. he looks more like golem. Ok, this is great, mike and you are going to have a showdown seeing that you have until the end of feb. This should be great!.. Lol.