@lilnik: Thanks, don't know why Alan Rickman should be proud though, he's born with his face LOL @Bullet: Thanks, but I have a long way to go ( or at least need to learn a trick or two ) before achieving something that's hitting believeablity, let alone reality @Jay: Thanks for the picture I will add it to the collection, oh and please tell your daugther that it's hard to get it looking right ( see the attached image as proof ).....