To be honest I can't remember the last time I used the software renderer so I have no clue why the texture is such a mess in the reflection, however I believe the reason why the fur wasn't showing in the MR render reflection is because 'visible in reflections' was unchecked in the render stats section of its shape attributes. This render took 1min 1sec using 'production' render preset on a quad core 2.66GHz machine with 8GB DDR2 1066 Ram. Try a different texture with more noticeable shapes on the ground and check out the maya software, it probably will make it look messy as well. Thank you, it now renders the grass too. It's so hard to pick the fur to get to Fur feedback node... X_X any other way to select it? Took me a bit longer on my pc using production. (though i still have winamp, msn and a server program running) I'm on a dual core 3 Ghz with 4 Gb ddr2 and 1 gb video. Still got to fix the shadow's aspect or change the light type. Still on Area Light.