I don't think we are contradicting each other here jay , What I said or try to say was that they should keep that focus on sculpting ( like they are doing with dynamesh). With regards to the crashes, I am crashfree as long as I don't save it as a Zproject, Ztools are fine, it has something to do with memory allocation and yes Mari is very cool, it would be smarter if they lower the price to around $600, so it would get a wider adoption.