https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...e&v=VChoVZL43K I was lookin at Dave's tank thread the other day and read how he'd used the animation snapshot technique to model the treads. I havnt used that technique before so I googled it and ended up at the above video on you tube... might come in handy for you? hm...broken link.... Maya: Animation snapshot - YouTube ...this might work better