It's me again Nem I got a leadtek gforce 4 TI 4200 128mb 8xAGP with VIVO. Reason, well I'm sure you'll get this answer if you've posted a t cgtalk.com also. It's the more affordable one and you'll see minimal speed on the 4400 and 4600 for the amount of their price. I know you're asking about the gainsward, but hopefully it'll help. Are you planning on buying a custom built pc? George