thx, I did the lego animation (you see the car being built by flying legoblocks while the guy stands next to it, very neet) with primitives in about a month, mabye 2. The droid lasted more than a year, but like I said I spent most of the time playing games. I think it took me a total of 3 months actually making it. That was done with surface tools (kinda like simplified NURBS)