Wow thank you so much for the help!!!! Unfortunately I have had trouble finding pictures that were from a different angle. The face is subdivisions, started with a subdivision sphere and went from there. Subdivision surfaces can be great for the effects they can achieve but sometimes they just don't do what I want. I have tried to rework the eyes and Maya crashed each time... I mean, my poor system is already frying with this, and I still have plenty of things to put in there!!! Anyway, the statue in the final shot is supposed to be in backlight in front of a series of windows, so it doesn't need to be perfect for this specific project. But I wanted to see how good I could make my first organic model. Pony thank you so much for the help, you are great!