ereitz- cool thanx! I will try that- EagleKing- I think once you attach and merge all the vertices That line will disappear. Here is an update, I am now pushing and pulling on the SubD surface at various resolutions. Man that is time consuming! Maya Rocks! This is the farthest I have ever gotten on a model. I usually give up by now because I am not happy with how it’s turning out. The fingers look really arthritic; I will concentrate on them next. H!