this started ouyt and it was supposed to be me... but i took off the mask... and did this.. bc i didnt wanna do ears... (yeah... ears=scarry for me) i am not dont with it yet... i have only been working for like an hour or 2 on this... so its super rough... but you will get the idea... :bgreen: P.S.: "what happened to the Supra" you ask? i think i am soo much better at ppl and organics than i am with hard edges.. so i quit... well i didnt totally quit... its just on the back burner... till i can get better with maya... C&C plz