Originally posted by roach105 do you want to post the file. Maybe we can all do render tests to see the results. I have a quadro FX 700 and a quadro FX 2000. It should not take very long to do hardware renders, but it may depend on what your scene looks like. i cant post it as the file istn actually mine and righ now i dont have permission but it is game content meant... 50000aprox tri polys + colormaps + alpha no bumps works fine on wievports... not if you hit maya hardware render... strange