"HE'S" sorry about the double post. 'HE' posted again because 'HE' did not spot the thread on the videos. It was not meant as a way of upsetting everyone.
I do not understand the advice about component mode. It does not seem to matter what mode I am in if when box selecting CVs on one object should any part of that selection box happen to passover any part of the other object that whole of the second object is selected. In the video when CVs are selected the object beneath is not affected. I have been using the control/click to deselect the extra objects but this has got to be a real pain.

thanks for any help
bob