I actually figured it out, position = birthPosition + <<0,.05,0>>;
that puts it just above where it starts so it knows to collide with the first part, it now runs down the sides, but now I need to know how to make it stick to the surface as friction just isn't working or doing it right, find the solution to one problem and then you find there's another on the other side...
anyway, thanks for your reply, and thanks in advance for any other responses