I'm having trouble with my rig as you probably can see if you're willing to watch it on you tube that is, i've parented the handles to a masternode, i checked the rig and everything was fine so i've grouped the masternode and the topjoints in a riggroup checked again and then this happened What have i done wrong, i've followed the steps from a book (learning maya 7 the modeling and animation handbook, so i would'nt get a crappy rig, but it seems i found a way despite the book:headbang: I've also attached a picture of the rig (i was just getting to colorcoding,so the differentcolors you're seeing are not from layers).