ehehe thank you!!!!! .. perhaps I'm wrong... I repeat and ... nothing.. probably I set hypershader in a panel when i have it in another panel too and so the problem is in the other panel now... but ... anyway I trick this problem and now I can work ... The problem is attached to the project you use.. If you go to Documents/maya/ etc .. and you delete the "prefs" ..folder you reset all , and all works well but if you recall a bug project .. you have the problem another time.. I think it is a layout problem ... seems that maya when go in hypershade or another type of panel with no-manipulators don't reset when go in a camera "mode" and so the panel go in BUG and never re-show the manipulators... we should send this problem to autodesk... :bow: :bow: :bow: