Oh, thx, so booleans are a no? What do you mean by fixing up your topology? And WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GOOD PIX ON A DARK KNIGHT? I am desperate, the bestest thing that would have ever happened to me would be for someone to draw me a dark knight (not to detailed) in a T pose and with fine distinct lines that I could use for a reference pic. PLeaSE HELP ME SO MUCH, I AM BORED OUT OF MY MIND LOOKING FOR A GOOD REF PIC. :headbang: