Thanks gster, I figured the axis may be arse about, cheers mate. Yeh I didnt bloody think of the units...dooohhhh

Yeh dave its a standard cad DXF, trust me mate I import export 4 squillion of them a week, back and forth between Autocad and Civilcad. Civilcad has trouble reading them as well.

Thanks gents I will change the prefs and give that a go. I have a few landscapes I would like to try, if they turn out ok I will post a few, anyone can use em. I have a lot of design DXF's so some of them may be useful. Digitising contour maps in Civilcad I could turn real world stuff into meshes.

I could try changing the UCS first too I suppose gster. Dont remember how in Autocad but I will figure it out.

cheers bullet