thanx guys. i fried my eyes some more. i'll work on the feet and upper body later. i had to rebuild some parts of it though, for some strange reason i couldn't convert after a while, i keep getting an error (i would have probably finished already) i had to go back and tweak my unsmoothed mesh like 2-3 times. maybe its something i don't know or maya's acting stupid. i had to add a head to it (i just wanted to see something there) Gen