Ever tried this convertion ? I did, and i've never seen so many patches before, after converting a subdivision head into nurbs...had even more patches than Alex Alvarez in Nurbs-Modelling 2 from Gnomon *gg*...something like 200 Nurbs-Patches...therefore: think twice before you do such a convertion, because afterwards don't even think about adding details ;O)) b u l l e t