Murambi- Thanks! I pressed 3 but nothing happened. I have maya 7 so I dont think i have the feature your talking about. joopson- I think its the angle because I'm basing this off of 3 orthographic views. I totally agree, having the normals set to 0 helps show faces that may not flow with the grayscale gradient when the faces are curving. Thanks! ill post up a pic with it smoothed