Hah, sorry killerbee.. i will watch my wording in other sections because i could see why that could confuse someone. I did mean a entirely different scene.. doesnt have to be big or fancy either. I love your choice, pendulims or whatever they are called are quite cool, model some small screws on that, get some realistic textures, a couple labels (made in ______) and your laughin! Well its not that easy but i bet you can pull it off. For you d24e, lets see some work! Now i dont know about you guys but its only the 14th here.. so you still have quite a bit of time to work on this.