Just something that 'popped' in there while Ive been sitting here working on a new model, some of you may find this weird, some may find it obvious and some amusing. The question is: Why do we do test renders, be them software or mental ray while we are still in the middle of a WIP without it being textured? Or better still if arms and legs are missing on a character I know why I do it, but I'll wait and give you my answer later. Cheers Jay