Thanks mate,

it is satisfying to sit and doodle..so to speak. No booleans...bahahahahaha just on the circular cutouts..too much hassle. The poly count will be high but I dont mind..its for a model. I guess no tutorial makes it sorta better as you arent constrained so to speak.

I tried a panel last night but didnt like the shape so I will do another....might do 3 or so and then post and see which one gets the nod.

chhers bullet